Solved by sarmadraheem in post #45
Nov '19
Mar '20
| 20 | What is GP Shifting? - Reverse Shift Pattern on my Sportbike designcorse.com |
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why in God's name would any co. do that??
its the most stupid shift pattern ever to be on a motorcycle.
Tell that to the average consumer that thinks the cd 70 is a gift from God and it is blasphemous to say otherwise.
cause they want to sell it more, further in Pakistan 1n2-5 is not ubiquitous, so they want to target n1-5 or 4 crowd.
Not sure if that's really the case. Have been riding on a 70 for 11 years never faced this issue. I think the other pattern up/down is more confusing. One can easily mess-up in middle of the road and actually turn of his bike if he accidentally move to a higher gear resulting in bike being turned off and bang someone from your behind.
i havent rode any bike other than sequential front shifting gears and i find them very easy and user friendly.
Might as well give it a CVT transmission...
Twist and go!
Anyhow... While I'm used to both kind of shift patterns, I prefer the '1 down, rest up' sequence.
It's indeed sad to see Yamaha going away from the 'traditional' gear pattern.
Cd-70 gearing is not very far a part it isnt optimized for best of both worlds its just made to move user's butt from a place to b nothing much even through that very early ones had 1 down rest up (rode one such bike once)
Its not GP pattern, Proper GP pattern is
1
N
2
3
4
5
The stupid all down pattern causes a lot of issues while riding and is literally obtuse and idiotic if the rider decides to use real world motorcycles later on.
imagine someone went from the retarded pattern and perched on a BMW R1200 - rolled on the throttle to join a road - closes to redline and downshifts a gear - human burger meat is not considered a delicacy anywhere yet.
The real problem is that there is no safety mandate for motorcycles in Pakistan, People literally heelshift the lever (because of hawai chappal riders), it should be removed and only the front provided to riders actually use the toe lever to shift.
You should ride a proper one, then you will understand why its more proper. - I hope you are not one of the riders who "hunt" for gears while stopped.
meaning - you start braking from 3rd gear and stop while in 3rd gear then hunt for it like a cartoon - you are supposed to be in the correct gear related to the road speed at all times till you gently roll to a stop at which time you should be in 2nd so you can gently nudge it down to neutral (within 5ft from stopping)
If you go to countries with real proper tests before motorcycle licensure and you hunt for a gear at standstill - you get disqualified - no license, paisa zaaya - redo it again, pay again.
Sprag slipper clutches can solve that issue, but they are not mandatory even here, and I agree with you that proper training is paramount for riders. Much is lacking in this regard. Proper gear (ATTGATT) and knowing techniques for controlling the motorcycle in all situations comes only with constant effort. (I have been riding for nearly half a century, and I am still learning.)
Hunt for it like a cartoon.
The thing is, most riders don't know anything about downshifting and braking. Most people I see on the road only use the rear brake, no matter what! Even in emergencies, they just slam on the rear brake, skid the tail and lose control in the process. No one seems to be aware of the 70/30% braking rule.
Same goes to rev-matched downshifts. I've yet to see a man on the road who use this technique. You don't need a slipper clutch if you know how to rev match. Also, it can be useful in emergency braking on wet roads.
Since motorcycles are such crucial part of our society and almost everyone starts riding at age 14 or so, I think we ought to teach high school students about riding techniques and road manners in schools because let's face it, they've none!
I have old YBZ with 1 n 2 3 4 5. Took me few days to getting use to the shift pattern but now I dont even notice it. I like the pattern now and yes you have to be at correct gear at speed not like most cd 70 riders when they park the bike is in 4th gear 
