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I am a Mechanical Engineering student at NUST and I have spent my last 3 years studying car particularly
steering and suspension. So, I will give you some information regarding pros and cons of suspension and the science behind it.

WHAT IS SUSPENSION?
Its a system consisting of shocks, tires and its linkages. Steering is a major factor that is affected by suspension geometry.

WHAT IS SHOCK?
Shock is a combination of two things in most cases; one is spring and other is damper. We can adjust damping ratio and spring stiffness to get desired properties.

Damping Ratio
The damping ratio is a dimensionless measure describing how oscillations in a system decay after a disturbance. So, more the damping ratio, lesser the oscillations and harder the ride.

Stiffnes
Stiffness is the force required to cause unit deflection. So, if stiffness is larger, it means more force is required to compress a spring and so harder is the ride.

Now, that we have learned what are the factors that affect our ride, now coming to main topic:

STIFF SUSPENSION:
If value of stiffness and damping ratio both are HIGH then our ride will be very stiff.

When car reaches pothole, then a stiff spring will not allow more extension of spring and tyre will not touch the ground and so whole body will do down due to gravity and so pothole will be felt in whole body.

At, high speed turns, the force on inner tires will be more than outer tires. So, inner tires will compress and outer tires will extend. But, stiff springs will not allow more extension, So, the car will lose ground as shown in figure below

Pros:

  1. Now, these stiff springs will increase steering sensitivity. So, at low speed we can feel the steering wheel taking the car going where we want it take.

Cons

  1. The ride is very hard and uncomfortable.
  2. Less grip at high speeds.

SOFT SUSPENSION:

A soft suspension will have soft spring meaning it will allow more compression and extension.

So, when car hits potholes, the springs will allow more extension and tire will make contact with ground and whole chassis will remain in its shape. So, bump will not be felt in the car inside.

During turning at high speeds, the inner tires will compress more and outer tires will extend more, So tire will make contact with ground which increase grip, but the steering will feel unstable due to load transfer on one side. As, shown in figure below the tires maintained contact with ground but the chassis weight is shifted on one side that effect steering.

PROS

  1. Soft comfortable ride,
  2. Maximum road grip

CONS

  1. Steering feel not present. Car only "feel", not connected to ground.

CONCLUSION:

In, road cars, the combination is to go for SOFT SUSPENSION and LOW GROUND CLEARANCE.
Soft suspension will increase grip and comfort and low ground clear clearance will give grip and steering feel.
No, comparing most common cars in Pakistan:

But for Pakistani roads, we need high ground clearance thats why people pick COROLLA more for both urban and rural use, and pick CIVIC for urban use only and pick CITY because they don't like Toyota.

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Nice information sharing.

Ride comfort is best in Civic due to its independent rear suspension and additional stabilizing bars, its not just low ground clearance. Corolla and City have very basic rear suspension with flat beam cause loss of road grip on high speed turning.

I can increase height of Civic with bigger rims and tyres but still its road grip will still be better than Corolla.

Yes, you are absolutely right. In, the definition of suspension, you can see, there are tires, shocks, and steering linkages. Steering geometry and type mainly affect suspension and steering. I only discussed shocks in this article.

Hence proved civic better than corolla:) crux of whole thread.. article was good except the end where i saw rolla vs civic story again..:)))

"If the car was a "sport" version to begin with stiffing the suspension might degrade the handling. On a typical family sedan stiffer suspension would likely improve handling by keeping tires in better contact with the road. Sedans with standard suspensions are tuned more for comfort and smoothness over handling.The answer can't be generalized since it depends on the car you start with and how it came equipped from the factory.

And the fact is that, stiffer suspension is beneficiary in sports because of better contact between road and tyres, as you know for sports car must is the way as better as possible the road/tyre contact, for providing better torque as well as speed. And for better handling over sharp turns without skidding."

Also, it needs to be pointed out that soft suspension results in body roll, hence less handling.

We cannot particularly say "sports" cars have stiff suspension because now they are coming with damptronic suspension which adjust damping every millisecond but its generally stiff.

Sports cars have low ground clearance and to maintain that they need stiff suspension.

I pointed out body roll by using term "LOAD TRANSFER" as body roll is due to load transfer.

I m not city owner bro..i used to be and never hated car like many here do. It was a great car for me.

The "Grpund" Clearance like you mentioned in your table is low for civic. But that is only in relation to Corolla. PKDM Civic is still much higher than international models. But yeah it is still a sports car to most of our people.

This wont let corolla owners sleep HAHA

2 years later

A new Entrant "Hyundai Elantra" has joined the competition of Mid-sized sedans in Pakistan.

What do Automotive Gurus have to say about its suspension?

In my personal expereince I found Elantra to be a little on a stiffer side but still felt comfortable on rough roads and over pot holes.

What's your take on that?

This is not as simple as the spring and damping rates as the OP makes it seem.

Suspension linkage geometry including anti-roll bars, tire and wheel choices, ratio of sprung to unsprung weight, suspension travel, progressive rates, variable damping etc. are only some of the major factors that go into an overall design to determine suspension performance according to the parameters desired to be achieved for any any given vehicle.

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