Toyota Platz Best Engines To Swap With (1SZ-fe,1NZ-fe,2SZ-fe,2NZ-fe)

[sunemaddy]

Assalam alaikum,I have decided to swap my toyota platz manual tranny engine.But i cant decide which engine will be the best fit in terms of power,milleage,compatibility,reliability ....Your help will be much appreciated,Kindly help me ,My time is running over..Thanks

[capsat]

1NZ-FE & 2NZ- FE engines are common bolt on swap, over XP10s
make wise choice. Since 4+ years now automobile scrap from elsewhere has not landed into Pakistan

[horticulturalist]

All the engines you mentioned will work. Good luck for finding a clean one.

[sunemaddy]

so what are you saying ? kindly elaborate

[sardarg]

2 members @xulfiqar & @capsat are very fond of answering questions with riddles throwing members in spin

what i understand from the riddle is that you can choose between 1NZ and 2NZ engine for swap. which does not require any modifications to engine compartment.

also due to non-import of vehicular scrap for over 4 years the engine in scrap markets may be from locally salvaged vehicles and not of good condition may require overhaul sometime later.

[sunemaddy]

so i should go for overhaul ? i just wanna convert my 1.0 under powered platz into a comfortable ride with some power,reliability and engine efficiency..I have been on to this topic for over a year now and i still cant decide what to do i have finally have some budget to do something about it and i want it done now before my budget disappears somewhere else..

[babaralinawab]

2szfe best swap with cvt gearbox , it will give you great milage and power

[sunemaddy]

my platz is manual....what modifications would i need to swap with 2szfe 1.3 . I mean ecu,wiring,transmission etc ?

[babaralinawab]

it would require complete engine gearbox wiring ecu meter gear lever everything
a long project indeed

[sunemaddy]

cant i use my existing manual transmission ? and get a new ecu with sensors

[capsat]

if you mention your city there are trusted workshops you can connect with reference of PW. They can overhaul the engine with brand new parts which will be good for over 300,000 kms with timely correct maintenance. Good luck,

scrapyard engine cost does not include workshop labor charges or any additional parts or electrical work required to make engine work in your car. Please remember that.

riddles are put forth to trigger effort to search & read more.

am against spoon feed specially when a person can use a device is able to understand read & write basic english <-- @sardarg

[sunemaddy]

Okay i understand,i am from faisalabad,if you know any good mechanic here who can overhaul and guide me further,let me know

One other thing,after spending much of my day here,reading threads,i have been thinking to myself " how about getting just head assembly of 2sz fe 1.3 ,instead of complete assembly... I have been reading here that,1sz fe swap with 2szfe is pretty easy and simple,and i could use the same old wiring and transmission of (1sz fe) for 2sz fe ,may be buy a new ecu..

And yes i get your point to encourage users to do some hard research,thats is what i did today here reading threads,i am not sure if everything that i have read so far is true but certainly my head is a little bit clearer than before

[Retaliator]

why the swap of 2SZ-FE head only with 1SZ-FE? it will remain 1000cc.

[sunemaddy]

I meant assembly without gear
If could find a clean one,otherwise overhaul ...
I asked a mechanic about complete overhaul,including all new parts and labour,it said it would cost mein 90k...is it any true ?

[brownrose78]

@sunemaddy
Actually such suggestions/questions are frequently asked here since ages on pakwheels forum that what one should go for swap or rebuild.

My expereince and conclusion says that:

Its pure owner's choice what should be the best to him/her as per him/her requirements in terms of following factors preference-wise:

1. Budget Limit

2. Transmission choice. As per your health e.g. If owner or other driver(s) at your home driving your car have joint pain issues or other problems like backache or arthritis or some other orthopedic problems or any issue else, then one should convert to Automatic Transmission for ease

3. Availability of skilled resources(Good workshops/ Mechanics)

4. Availability of parts

5. Mood of keeping it near to stock like Factory spec. or likes modifications as per nature/mood or want to modernize it as per new era/ new Tech

6. Is your vehicle daily ride or it is using as 2nd or 3rd car at your home

7. Do you have interest or you can afford frequent Visits to car mechanics, electricians, denter, painter, Axle workshops, A/C shops, Suspension uncle etc. (Here afford means both Time-wise as well as Cost-wise)

8. What is your family requirement of this vehicle? If one is using this car for taking any family member or friend to hospital, therapy center then ofcourse, peace of mind will stay with as much as stock as possible.

9. How much are you concerned about Fuel Savvy as per your budget/ salary etc. Of course, in long run it will be a major factor.

So after calculating all factors, then decide what is best for you, your pocket and the most important to your family

[Retaliator]

how about getting just head assembly of 2sz fe 1.3 ,instead of complete assembly... I have been reading here that,1sz fe swap with 2szfe is pretty easy and simple,and i could use the same old wiring and transmission of (1sz fe) for 2sz fe ,may be buy a new ecu..

what are u thinking of doing? the engine would remain 1000cc. if u want head then why not same head? and the bore of 2SZ and 1ZF are different. i dont think heads can be swapped

In ur case 2SZ can replaced ur 1SZ without wiring ecu etc. but remember without original ECU for 2SZ it wont run the way it is supposed to. will save u some money. and maybe after swap everything would be pleasant (drive, economy, noise, response at all rpms)

[sunemaddy]

Thankyou for your deep insights on the matter...I am considering these factors that you have mentioned above

[sunemaddy]

i am thinking of swapping with 2sz ,but using my old transmission and wiring,I will get a new ecu though...I am just trying to consult different mechanics and people in here that if my old manual transmission and wiring would work with the new 2sz assembly....i am willing to buy a new ecu ....If my old transmission and wiring will work,then most probably i ll swap over the coming few weeks...I just need to confirm somethings first and find the assembly cost and labor costs etc etc(which i am doing) and see if i have the budget for it ...Meanwhile i am also planning to get some quotations from mechanics about overhaul costing.....whichever option felt more satisfactory and in my budget,that's the option i ll choose ....

[brownrose78]

@sunemaddy
You are welcome. Yes these are minimum factors to be considered.

In my example, recently i have overhauled Engine in my Khyber and found it more better option in comparison with swap due to above factors most importantly, i cannot spend/waste too much time for going daily to car mechanics, electricians, denter, painter, Axle workshops, A/C shops, Suspension uncle.

However after complete overhaul, now i am considering 2 to 3 new factors i.e. Road/Traffic Jam in Karachi plus pain in my knees plus future planning of relaxing/ ease factor as per my age, i am planning to replace original Manual Tranny with Automatic Transmission in near future. Here now my priority is my ease, my health but in parallel at the same time, i will have to compromise on Fuel mileage/ Average but of course it has lesser priority in compare to above 3 priorities.

BTW, in which city are you located? Mention it so that other pakwheelers can guide you tested mechanic, better parts sourcing options etc.

[Retaliator]

make the swap without ECU first. check the emissions, fuel economy and response. if all is well then continue running.

if not then get a compatible ECU. most probably u ll find one meant for automatic transmission. mechanics will bypass the automatic transmission signals somehow and make it work (again i think this is not the best thing to do. i m not sure whether the programming, fuel tables etc. in ECU of the engine are same for both automatic transmission ones and manual transmission ones).