Honda Civic 1997 VTi Engine Overhaul ( over heating reducing oil)

[janleva]

I have a civic vti which is suffering from over heating. The needle goes up to the redline and stays there if i drive normally but when I decelerate or go down hill the needle come back down( eg when going down hill in the salt range the needle comes back to normal. The engine never had a head job or gasket change. I changed the radiator to double nali desi one some 5 years ago.
I am getting oil in the radiator as well, burning a plug of one cylinder and oil reduction but the car is still half self start.

I am going to get some things done this weekend from a mechanic in Faisalabad EId Gah road as he always had figured out problems of my Honda but in a desi way. Had a bad experience with Honda pit stop the couldn't even fit a side view mirror properly . Would have got it done from Lahore but the car cant travel that far now L

1. Head gasket replacement
2. A ring and valve seals job depending upon the damage done to the engine
3. Water body replacement
4. New timing belt
5. New radiator
6. New silencer as the old one may have clogged with oil.

Any suggestions and information about any other good mechanics will be appreciated.

DAY 1 : The weather was quite ideal for spending a day at the work shop. The engine was opened up and was taken out for complete over haul.
After inspecting the cylinders the mechanic said that a simple gasket change will not do the job the block needs work to be done and needs to be taken out or the other option is get it swapped he gave me both options. I gambled with the overhaul.30- 40 k might go down the drain but I am mentally prepared for that. The block was taken to the kharadia. Came back at 3 the mechanic said he will inspect the engine in detail and tell me about the parts to be replaced by tomorrow.

DAY 2.. Went to buy the parts
bought will be assembled today by kharadia and again by mechanic tomorrow
1.Pistons
2.Rings
3.Valve set
4. Clutch Plate
5.Misc. Bearings
6.Timing belt
7.HeadGaskit
Costed me 22 k.

Total expenditure till now 22k+4000 khardia+3 for kabli piping and junkyard items=29


DAY: 3 The engine block is ready and in the Engine bay.The head will be places tomorrow. Got a new water Pump today worth 2400 that makes the total expenditure till now 29000+2400=31400

DAY: 4 The overhaul was eventually completed today. Got the double Nali DEnSO/HONDA Radiator. A set of belts. Total Spent on the radiator 5000 and belts 600 and some nuts and bolts 200=5800 ,Oil and fluids,coolants 3200, miscellaneous 2000
The total Spent on Parts 31400+5800+3200=2000=42400+8000 Mechanic Labor=50400 Rs for the engine over haul

DAY: 5 Today I got the some sounds resolved that were coming from the driver side wheel.
Got new
Disc Pads whole set , Goda Boot,steering boot,Chimta bush, Discs Facing,end repair, Ball joint repair,front brake cylinder kabli,break oil
This wheel job costed Rs 6540.

Got a new silencer worth 2200, Wheel alignment Rs 150
Total spent today 6540+2200=150= 8790
Total Spent during 5 days =50400+8790=RS 59190
1.Pistons
2.Rings
3.Valve set
4. Clutch Plate
5.Misc. Bearings
6.Timing belt
7.HeadGaskit
8.water Pump
9. Ball joint
10. 3 pump belts belts
11. Radiator
12. Pipping
13.O rings
14. Break Pads
15. SilencerOVERHAUL COMPLETED Thanks GOD I pray that it stays this way . It's the first 5 minutes of running time that can wipe out a new cam. The other 15 minutes is just insurance. Lets see what it does in the future

[janleva]

there is oil seepage all around the valve cover especially near the distributor where there is slot of deposition or oil and dust and it also leaks oil 4 ,5 minute drops whenever i park the car after travelling.When i rev the engine i can see smoke coming out around the valve cover. Will post some pics in the evening.

[rj212]

Make sure you get your civic's piston rings changed as well while at it! Over heating is caused by engine not breathing out properly and to do that you must have a healthy radiator that kicks on at 85-90c temperature of coolant... Never pour water in radiator unless it's concentrated antifreeze(check user manual) I'd say every honda uses TYPE 2 coolant as it's premixed no need to mix it with water anyway look for the radiator hoses if they are worn out or clogged up... All the best let me know how it goes for ya!

[janleva]

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[Fahad.Ayub]

How much is your car driven ?

[2fast_to_furious]

seems like torn washer Presser cooker...i'm thinking how it will look like when you rev high, like steam engine...brother, immediate check the head gaskit with proper nuts...seems like head is glued rather than bolts fit...(missing bolts can be seen in pic)

[NiGhTShAdE]

if you are 100% sure that you are getting oil in radiator then there is no second thought....your car's head gasket is gone.....plus there is there is extraordinary amount of oil leakage near joint of head and engine block...that also indicates towards damaged head gasket....

[hash4u]

what ever u do,
do not overhaul this engine.if the pistons are weak/damaged, get a kabli assembly
do not buy a desi radiator,buy a kabli one

[janleva]

230 k driven on a light foot started lowering oil at 160 k but not that much with the passage of time it got worse all those leakages and heat ups. the engine used to be fine till these leakages began catching dust here is the engine bay at 160 k

[janleva]

seems like torn washer Presser cooker...i'm thinking how it will look like when you rev high, like steam engine...brother, immediate check the head gaskit with proper nuts...seems like head is glued rather than bolts fit...(missing bolts can be seen in pic)

yes indeed smoke comes out from it like its gonna blow up ..so i keep it under 2.5 k rpm or around 60 km these days :(..

[hash4u]

u kept on driving in damaged poor state
it will be a useless and very expensive effort if you try to rebuild it
assembly swap!(only)

agay aap ki marzi

[janleva]

u kept on driving in damaged poor state
it will be a useless and very expensive effort if you try to rebuild it
assembly swap!(only)

agay aap ki marzi

yes i do feel sorry for it but back then i used to think that its just lowering a lil bit of oil no other problems so why bother about it. But now :(..not going to get a full over haul that's for sure. the assembly change would have been my preference but iam thinking of selling it and this new assembly and registration book alteration will effect its resale I am thinking of buying some newer model 2002-2005 in the near future.

[janleva]

BTW its still a beauty at the out side

[hash4u]

repair, fix, sell then
get original steel gasket only,
Rings,
rubbers/seals all new to stop leaks

[janleva]

repair, fix, sell then
get original steel gasket only,
Rings,
rubbers/seals all new to stop leaks

yup will do exactly the same ..i have seen your civics over haul turn in to a new assembly job.. i can feel what you would have felt at that time...thanks for the input mate

[shah96]

Bro same thing happened with one of my cousin a sincere advice would be put in qabli D15B 3 Stage Vtec engine with qabli radiator and put in new hoses new timing belt new water body and you will be good for another 4-5 years if you maintain it properly. Put in caltex coolant and buy original honda radiator qabli one which i think is 2 nali or 3. These engines are delicate and our mechanics are illiteratethey cant rebuilt them. If clutch not in good condition then put in Excedy Clutch and Pressure plate kit. Your car will be as good as new provided you have good mechanic and decent electrician.

[RajaGohar]

bro go for a kabli swap your car will be trouble free for next 3,4 years

[rj212]

ne

rocker gasket!!!!!!!

[janleva]

by rocker gasket you mean valve cover and oil seals around the spark plug area

[SER_GTR]

repair, fix, sell then
get original steel gasket only,
Rings,
rubbers/seals all new to stop leaks

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