HONDA CIVIC 11TH GEN manufacturing faults

[malik7x]

Bought a Civic 1.5 oriel 2022 in May 2022 and its like Honda Atlas never cared for build quality. I have not 1 not 2 but several issues and I would like professional help regarding solving these issues.
Firstly the car has a big issue as theres so much wind noise. As soon as go past 65km/h speed, wind starts coming in from both front left and right windows. As I speed up it gets louder and louder. Its unable to drive at 100km/h speed. I have gone to dealership twice and they told me it is what it is and they cant do anything about it. Its a major issue and I want to sell the car just because of this one issue.

2nd issue is with windscreen wiper. Whenever you will use windscreen washer, it will release lots of water at the driver side front screen instead of spray. When you're driving at motorways the water will fly to the driver side window and it will get dirty with watermarks all over it.

3rd issue is with infotainment system. The infotainment system is a cheap Chinese software which doesn't work most of the time. It will get stuck most of the times while making Bluetooth connection and get fixed itself whenever it wants.

These issues have driven me crazy with no positive response from dealership aswell. I feel like this is my last hope as I seek professional advice from all of you

[pwuser169015577544]

You are still lucky to not have a steering rack issue which most of the people have faced. I think 9th Gen civic was there last with good build quality, I had so many issues when I had Civic Xs, both of them had steering rack issues and there AC was not up to the mark and surprisingly both were less than 70k Kms. I had to sell both of them and got myself the 9th Gen civic aka Rebirth which is much better in quality and reliable.
I got that car luckily as it was only driven 33k Kms, I got it from my cousin who was the first owner of it and he barely drove the car.
I remember Honda used to offer the best quality and features in the beginning, always felt premium quality in the older generations but they have ruined everything now.

[Xulfiqar]

Honda used to offer best quality in civic?

Compared to what? A bicycle?

[Xulfiqar]

2nd issue is with windscreen wiper. Whenever you will use windscreen washer, it will release lots of water at the driver side front screen instead of spray. When you're driving at motorways the water will fly to the driver side window and it will get dirty with watermarks all over it.

Well

Cant beat physics!! Water will be flicked by the airstream. To get engineers to take care of this aspect, you need to get Honda to pay the designers like they were paid by mercedes when the w124 and w201 were designed,

The designers actually took this problem into consideration and the water will creep upwards on the side window as you speed up. Its very fascinating.

But sadly no car co. Will ever pay for that kind of detail now. Customers more want “lush push shape”, sporty fake exhausts, touch screen etc. not some stupid water clearing itself.

[omaruser156370259465]

1. Dont understand what you mean by that issue? Maybe Civic 11 owners can guide you well and share their experience regarding wind noise.
2. This issue is with my CIvic X as well, it releases way too much water and almost reaches the other cars on left and right on a red light in traffic, so just get used to it. Thats all I can advise.
3. Consider getting it replaced by a good well reputed headunit such as pioneer or nakamichi maybe, the stock headunit on all local cars except maybe Sportage are shit in all aspects. (This can void your warranty)

[daniyalcars72]

Buying this car was the first mistake. as the moment i saw the features and specs i knew that honda pakistan has broken all records of cost cutting and corruption in this 11th gen civic. its an overpriced joke tbh.. the wind noise your experiencing maybe due to misaligned windows or the windows themselves which are local made by a company known as ahmad glass or agc..then comes your second complaint of lcd and yes its a cheap chinese knockoff made by techno ..its the only civic in the world which gets techno lcd...as even their smart phones are considered cheap.. all in all i think honda pak has been spoilt by the good sales of their civicx which also had horrible build quality but due to its road presence and looks people flocked to buy it which is evidently missing in this gen. The so called 9 year old elantra and corolla dont have these issues thats why i always prefer a good feature equipped car with acceptable built quality rather then hunting for the latest model as its like the saying too good to be true in pakistan.. honda pak made sure that the latest model will still feel worse then older models by their methods of making cars.

[daniyalcars72]

exactly .. idsi city compared to the later ivtec had better ac,more comfort and it was more durable /better built same goes for civic ..9th gen was the last better built civic.. the tables have turned now imo .. corolla was before known to have unappealing interiors or less features/luxury then civic although it was more durable .. now toyota has improved their features/luxury game and yet making sure that its still the same with no issues as it was always while honda idk is being run by clowns of the highest order they didnt even rectify the steering rack issue its still there in 11th gen civic.. just leave the rest aside .

[daniyalcars72]

have you seen the new Mercedes s class wipers .. they have integrated tiny nozzles on the wipers themselves which spray streamlined uniform lines of water on the windshield and wipe away instantly ...imo the best wiper on any car now a days.

[Xulfiqar]

Those are old news, chevy had that figured out in the early 90s, their washer spray jets are on the wiper blade arm and spray in a pretty arc.

Ive seen the fancy mercedes copy too…

2 big points to note

1. No one in their right minds is going to offer that expensive mercedes washer design (holes in rubber) on a car like a cheap Honda civic econobox. The chevy one.. maybe but its an added expense.

2, water will still flick up with the airstream, cant beat physics. The marsadeez one also makes a mess in real life, the advertisement video doesnt show that.

[Xulfiqar]

Its not just pk

The civics in other markets are trash too.

[daniyalcars72]

YET Honda is pricing them as if their being made in Goodwood England..

[pwuser162557941033]

Why?

The MSRP of the base model is approximately 9,000,000 PKR, which is around $31,200 as of right now. A base model Civic in the US starts at $23,750 (MSRP). Ignore the trim level differences, consider local taxes and duties, and we're not that far off.

Any of the higher trim levels brings the prices closer together.

I hear a lot of BS about "Civic crore se upar hogayee hay" while 10 million rupees today is worth about a third of what it was five years ago.

[daniyalcars72]

hmm... I'm saying overall which also includes the us. Dealership markups are insane on these cars yet mentioned by others the quality is getting shoddy.

[pwuser162557941033]

As @Xulfiqar mentioned, the emphasis for the industry overall has shifted towards creature comforts, environment reg compliance, and other gimmicks that sell, not on vehicle longevity, design or reliability. Plastic parts, oil-immersed belts, etc.

A "disruptive" EV manufacturer is infamous for their terrible build quality. Toyota knows they'll be able to dress up a stock Fortuner in GR stickers and emblems and sell it for an additional Rs. 1,000,000 - with no GR performance upgrades. These companies know their markets quite well.

I have an older Civic that is still great to drive after 200,000km.

[jklodhi]

@fastian04

[fastian04]

My 10k kms experience has been excellent. Better than X in all aspects.. seats, drive , handling all aspects are better. No issues with build as well, may be due to early units.

Rack issue a global issue and has nothing to do with Atlas. There are complaints for sure and replacement is the way out. Someone can make a new user every month and starts a new thread... tired of this.... All Pakistani cars nowadays have chiniese lcds afterall.... be it elantra or corolla.... Honda one is chinese too but works fine. doesnt hang...its not the best but its ok vs what others offer here. other than steering rack which is global issue, i dont think there is any other issue. I myself have filed a claim but 11th steering issues is very different than X and is more frustrating than giving goose bumps

[fastian04]

Civic wipers in11th gen are the best i have seen so far. I can make a video as well, even the side pillars remains dry as it doesnt spit water like standard nozzles

[pwuser165176643628]

@xulfiqar why are newer Hondas so bad? What in particular do US customers not like about them

[malik7x]

I bought so I could replace Civic X oriel which btw I still have. X is much better in terms of quality compared to 11th Gen. Apart from head unit, X is a much better car than 11th Gen.

[malik7x]

The wind noise is coming from the gap between door. What I think is that the window doesn't closes all the way up leaving some gaps for wind to flow in. I have seen similar issue with RS aswell but not all cars have it. Is it possible that I can get it claimed under warranty or just maybe get it fixed if not warranty. Ill try to make a video of it aswell to make it better for understanding.