MG HS ; Dedicated Discussion, Owner/ Fan Club Thread

[sohaibshaddy1]

Tbh for most of the people with solar at their homes, plug in hybrids really does make a lot of sense where their daily commute is less than 60kms which is the case for most people. The car will essentially cost you free or very less. Even upto 80kms daily commute, expenditure of fuel will be very nominal. If priced correctly, a PHEV does make a lot of sense.

But quoting the fuel average to be 58km/L is absolutely misleading, we all might agree to this.

[pwuser164140872680]

Yes it also have DCT transmission like the regular MG HS. Only the difference is that it's first 4 gears are Electric because it can run on electric solely. And the remaining 6 gears are DCT. That is why it is called 10 EDU 2 transmission.

[hassannabeel27]

Only the difference is that it's first 4 gears are Electric because it can run on electric solely

So that means gear heating in traffic congestion would not be an issue anymore because of electric gears.

[pwuser167550015690]

I don't fully understand how the HS PHEV's transmission works exactly but the 4 electronic gears wouldn't be a substitute for the mechanical gears because the car can run out of battery (even depleting the levels required for HEV operation) and still would need to run so the 6 mechanical gears would also cover the lower range as well.

It's likely that in most scenarios, you would be fine because you should always have some level of charge left in your battery even in start and stop traffic jams to avoid engaging the mechanical gears too much.

[pwuser164140872680]

It's PHEV technically will work like as follows:
Upto the speed of 60 km/h, it's first 4 gears will work on electric and when the speed will move up from 60 km/h, it's remaining 6 gears of DCT transmission will be used.
So far the drainage of it's electric batteries is concerned, it can charge directly from regular electricity port in the vehicle on the opposite side of fuel tank. And when it's batteries become drained during your drive, then it's batteries shall be charged through regenerative technology like other hybrid vehicles.

[zee5han]

That was very informative ,thanks . I've kept many hybrids (Aqua/ Vezel/ Cross and now h6 hev) but never a PHV or EV

[pwuser167550015690]

I mean yes, that's practically how every PHEV works.

I was more talking about how their unique transmission works.

Your batteries can deplete while you're stuck in slow moving traffic. Happens very commonly with hybrids with AC or heating on. Typically, PHEVs reserve about 10% of your total battery capacity to operate in HEV mode. i.e., it would start behaving like a normal hybrid where it will charge the batteries by either capturing energy through regenerative braking or directly from the engine, using it as a generator.

But when you're stuck in traffic, you're not getting back energy through regenerative braking. You're limited to your engine charging the battery as well. (And in some situations, your battery can completely die due to a fault.)

So there is a small window in here where you don't have enough charge in the batteries to drive the motor even if you are at a standstill or very low speeds, so you need the engine to actually drive the wheels.

For these sorts of situations, the car would most likely have at least one or two low gears in that 6 gear DCT transmission as well. Otherwise, an all high-speed transmission wouldn't have enough torque to move the car at low speeds or from a standstill.

[pwuser164163568474]

I've driven my 1.5 HS on the motorway and up Nathia galli for the first time and had a mixed experience with it. I was hoping to share my views with everyone and maybe get some feedback from others.

The car was fairly new with it only being driven around 600 km since taking delivery in January. I heard a lot about people being unhappy with the fuel consumption so I was eager to see what the deal was about. Motorway driving at 120 kmh gave an average of close to 11 km/l; something I felt was quite low. I'm used to driving a Sonata or Corolla that give something closer to 14 km/l so that wasn't quite as pleasant considering the high octane requirement.

The car stays planted and the firm suspension eats bumps and road imperfections very well. The sunlight was harsh but some shades or curtains would have fixed that. Other than that I wanted to test the adaptive cruise control and lane keep assists, which I had never used in any other cars. I personally thought that the adaptive cruise control keeps too much distance when behind another car which forces a sudden acceleration when the lane finally clears up. However, it worked reliably and is such a big upgrade to normal cruise control where I constantly have to speed up to avoid breaking or engage it over and over again. The lane keep impressed me the most though; even sharp turns the car can steer itself, albeit at high speeds that would get rather uncomfortable. I appreciated the features the most at night, when the car was able to keep itself in the lane, stop incase something was infront that my eyes may not have caught by oncoming cars blinding me with high beams, and giving me confidence to continue driving at 120 km/h. I wonder if other cars have systems that work equally well (or better)? The only car I could compare to a similar suspension set up would be the Peugeot 2008, which I love except the smaller size. Does anyone know how the adaptive cruise control and lane keep compare?

When climbing the mountains to Nathia galli from the Abbotabad side (which are supposedly steeper), the car did fine despite the higher altitude. I could feel the engine gasping for air but the throttle response still made for a comfortable ride. I encountered a little wheel spin during one hard overtake, but that was just some uncomfortable noise rather than a scare. Fuel consumption was high and I could see the range depleting very quickly (but it was all gained back on the decline). On the descent the paddle shifters in super sport mode made the drive quite easy and the engine breaking was helpful in saving the breaks. I'm used from my Sonata that if I hit the accelerator for a bit the car would stop the manual mode, however the HS happily stayed in the selected gear. My only concern was the seating position where I could just not get comfortable and after descending I really needed a break as my foot was aching. I do not know if that is just an issue I am facing or if others struggle with this too.

While the car is one of the more comfortable ones at high speeds, I do not think that I would continue using it for long routes due to the higher fuel consumption. If I plan to drive at night (which I usually avoid on motorways) I would probably only take the HS due to the driver assists. I'm curious to hear from others if they have any figures on the 2.0 HS and its fuel consumption, or if anyone compared the driving assists from other car manufacturers (Haval, Peugeout, Changan).

[pwuser167550015690]

I haven't tried the driver assists features of any of the locally available models but the Toyota Safety Sense on my JDM model works wonders, to the point that I often enable adaptive cruise on certain roads in Lahore as well.

Btw did you try lowering the distance between the car up ahead if you felt it was too much by default? Typically, most cars start with a distance of 3 cars but can be lowered to just 1 as well. And this distance is dynamic based on your speed, so on higher speeds, the distance would be higher as well.

I personally prefer to keep it at 1 when I'm driving in Lahore but on the motorway, I typically set it to 3, specially at night so that it detect vehicles that might not be fully visible. It also is useful in light fog as well but keep an eye on the weather because a radar's accuracy can drop because of water droplets in the atmosphere, so thick fog or heavy rain will make it inaccurate.

[pwuser164163568474]

Yep, tried at the lowest setting and even that felt like a lot, however that is bound to happen with vehicles driving like 100-110 in the right most lane. I'm happy to report that every vehicle was scanned without any issues though (even ones that had dim rear lights or none). It looks kind of cool how it will periodically activate the high beam for a second to scan the road up ahead.

I'd probably be satisfied with the distance if I was cruising around 100-110 in the middle lane though. Anyhow, the way that the system works it ensures that the car can safely stop by itself so I guess I am nitpicking at people not moving over the overtaking lane timely.

I'm assuming you're talking about the safety sense on the C-HR? Does it steer itself when everything is activated? I know that the Civic RS is supposed to have the Z sensing package and that there was a big premium back in the day for the Z sensing Vezel (before the newer shape). I've read in the forums that the Peugeot's system isn't as polished (I guess it doesn't steer itself) and that the Oshan X7 only does a lane departure warning as well. So the only competitor locally that has all these features would be the Haval lineup I guess.

Edit:
A little double check showed that the Peugeot does have a proper lane keep assist, but I guess is lacking adaptive cruise control?

[pwuser167550015690]

It looks kind of cool how it will periodically activate the high beam for a second to scan the road up ahead.

That's not what it's doing. Adaptive Cruise in HS and most local cars works with the radar, not the cameras.

The high beam is simply the Automatic High Beam assist - the car would try to turn on the high beam at night if you're moving faster than 40 km/h and there is no oncoming traffic. The reason it turns off automatically on our motorways is because the barrier is too low to protect us from oncoming high beams from the other side. The High Beam Assist cameras pick up the oncoming traffic and automatically cuts the high beam.

I'm assuming you're talking about the safety sense on the C-HR? Does it steer itself when everything is activated?

Yes, Toyota Safety Sense in the C-HR does have Lane Tracing Assist along with Lane Centering but is extremely nosy about keeping your hands on the wheel and it turns off ACC and LTA if I take my hands off for more than a couple of seconds.

That said, the version I have is still the older one so it cannot be activated in slow moving traffic and being a JDM, it's also capped at 115 km/h, which means I mostly activate and then override it to go at faster speeds.

[pwuser164163568474]

Yes, Toyota Safety Sense in the C-HR does have Lane Tracing Assist along with Lane Centering but is extremely nosy about keeping your hands on the wheel and it turns off ACC and LTA if I take my hands off for more than a couple of seconds.

So for the MG it felt quite inconsistent when it would give a warning, I am not even sure how it would detect hands on the steering wheel. Placing my hands on the steering wheel often did not really make the warning go away so I would just steer a little left and right. Thankfully it is not that nosy.

[pwuser167550015690]

Most cars typically use a Torque Sensor. So you have to either grip the wheel with force or turn it slightly. As soon as it detects some torque on the steering wheel, the warning would go away.

Very rarely, some modern cars now also use a capacitive sensor as well, and for those even a very slight touch with a finger is more than enough.

[faakhir19]

Official price reveal at 2pm today

[faakhir19]

Price for MG HS PHEV is 9.5 million exclusive With-holding tax

Official price announced today

[mgalaxy3]

Any idea what the fuel average of PHEV HS is? Realistic figures for city and motorway driving . For latter it will likely be pathetic as batteries aren’t really used.

[zee5han]

And at what speed the car switches from Electric to normal motor like in normal hybrids above 80 it will shift to normal engine no matter what

[ASR]

Asalam o alaikum
Can some one please guide about transmission fluid change i dont want to visit dealership
Its written dexron dct on filler cap
2.45 litre capacity in mannual book
Can we use addinol or any other imported good brand dct fluid ?

[faakhir19]

[faakhir19]

Locally manufactured MG HS PHEV roll off ceremony